Happy Beds and Swoon Editions
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Good morning and apologies for what I expect to be a rather long question!
First, I read a good part of your website which has a wealth of very useful and interesting comments - thank you very much for that! Sometimes it does feel like you're a bit on the defensive side, focussing on what others do wrong rather than just promoting your own products but hey why not.
So, my question. What seems like a consensus in the market is that the use of 1000+ pocket springs, 100% cotton cover, natural filling, hand-stitching, hand-tufting, aerators on the side to let the inside breathe, etc. When I look at some of the Happy Beds mattresses like the Jewel 2000 or Signature 2000 for instance, they tick all these boxes (and in the case of the Jewel, even with horsehair and cashmere) and yet they sell for £418 and £299 respectively for kind size. These show as heavily reduced prices though and I havent monitored long enough to tell if we're talking of fake reductions or not. Then when I look at the Lyndhurst 2000 king size from Swoon Editions, it seems to tick all boxes again and therefore appear quite similar to the Jewel one for instance but retail for £799. Only "obvious" difference is the weight of the mattress which is 60kg for the latter and 35kg only for the Jewel. So i guess we're down to the density of the filling that you like to refer to when differentiating hand-made mattresses.
So my question I guess is manyfold. I fully understand that gsm is key and that the more filling you have the denser the mattress and therefore the better longevity it will have. BUT are we then talking of material or marginal differences in sleep quality and/or mattress longevity? as in are the Happy Beds Signature and Jewel crap because they only weigh 30-35kg although they seem to tick every single box of what is supposed to be a top-end mattress (by the way they have super good reviews in general) or are they instead a bargain because they are several times cheaper than high street brands selling quality products?
I understand you are conflicted as you are selling mattresses yourself but could you share your views and indicate (if relevant) what would be the minimum kingsize mattress weight for it to be deemed qualitative enough?
All the best, and many thanks for your work
Hello Clement,
Thank you for your question.
First and foremost, we cannot comment on another Manufacturers' products for obvious reasons.
When looking at mattresses, something of 35kg is not going to have an awful lot of fillings. You really do get what you pay for.
| How much to spend on a double mattress? | What can I expect for my money? |
|---|---|
| Under £500 | Will not get you much at best a 13.5 gauge open coil/cage sprung with a thin polyester layer or a solid foam mattress. |
| £500 | Entry level spunbond springs with some form of synthetic upholstery. Usually one sided mattresses. |
| £750 | The beginnings of a basic pocket springs unit with 800 – 1000 count. No substantial amount of filling other than foams and synthetic materials. Two sided models. |
| £1000 | Should get you away from most low ranges and into the mid-range pocket spring models. |
| £1250 | Should get you a decent pocket sprung mattress with some Natural Fibre content. |
| £1500 | Should get you many manufacturers mid-range models with Natural Fibres |
| £1500-£2000 | Should get you a Hand Made primarily Natural Fibre Quality Mattress |
| £2000+ | You should expect 100% Natural Fibres and Traditional Hand Made Construction Method. |
| £5000+ | A Bespoke Hand Made Sleep System, High-end Spring Units & Featuring the Worlds Most Luxurious Natural Fibres. |
Most of the Bed Companies do not explain the exact components of their mattresses as they feel this is a trade secret. We, however, feel that the customer should know the exact components so that you know what you are spending your money on.
Just because it states that a mattress has natural fillings, does not mean that it contains enough of those fillings to be of any benefit to the overall quality of the mattress.
The kingsize mattresses in our Artisan Range all weigh between 58kg and 61kg depending on the amounts of natural fillings used. All these mattresses have different fillings to give different comfort levels. The mattresses are either soft in the comfort layers, medium or firm so it also depends on how you want that mattress to feel.
We hope the above is of assistance to you but please do not hesitate to telephone our office and speak to an Advisor for further information on 0161 437 4419.
Kind regards Julie
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