Hastens mattress questions
Hi Ryan & John I would like to say first that I really like your site and like the way you doing business by showing that being honest and open and providing good products as well as good service could really win any reasonable persons confidence. I firmly believe now that the best warranty/guaranty that you could get from any mattress manufacturer is to make sure that the materials used inside and outer fabric layer are of the best quality and secondly that the construction is based on sound and proven practices. It matters not if a brand is famous or they sell their products at flashy showrooms, they are subject to market forces and they could collapse any time making the warranty they gave me a useless piece of paper ( actually, the larger brands spend huge sums of money on marketing and advertising and sales commissions and dinner parties for retailers and under table gifts to retail buyers and product launch parties…etc [ they actually add all those expenses to the mattress price] which leave them little to spend on high quality materials). I think it would be good and very helpful to show the materials you are using and the manufacturing process using as much as you can of high resolution photos and videos in addition to your detailed explanation. as that could make me more confident that you really giving me good quality materials and workmanship. Also would like to know your thoughts about using mini springs and micro springs and do you think that posturefill springs could be a good substitute for horse hair?
And if the springs inside a nonwoven fabric are heat treated then are they still not as good as the ones encased inside Calico cotton ?
( I think Hastens use nonwoven instead of Calico….am I right ?
). Thank you. .
Hi again Sam.
Good points.
You raise an interesting question about mini / micro springs being a substitute for horsehair. ‘Substitute’ is quite the wrong term – there is no substitute for this product. It is found (in significant quantity) in only the top end of all mattresses because it is such a superior product used within the mattress as a natural springy support layer. ‘Compromise’ would be a more fitting term, and then the answer would be yes.
As mentioned to your previous questions (below) horsehair acts as a gradual suspension layer, but so do the mini/micro springs, and also so would a layer of latex, and also on the furthest scale, a layer of foam. On the quality pyramid, horsehair is undeniably the best component to do this job. We have a detailed article on horse hair and horsetail here.
Your comment about pocket springs in a non-woven fabric, as opposed to Calico, was really interesting. You can assume that the wire used to make the actual spring will be broadly similar from all manufacturers. Vi Spring extol the virtues of Vanadium as part of their alloy mix – but is this significantly ‘better’ than a galvanised steel? Obviously, if the raw cost or retail cost of the Vanadium steel was similar then of course the Vanadium spring would be the one to use. Assuming that the wire spring within the non woven or calico pocket is similar, then they will of course do the same job.As with the horsehair v micro spring etc, analogy above it finally comes down to quality. Cotton Calico is a far better product overall than spunbond.
A further analogy on the same lines is that a bed sheet made from polyester or poly cotton will do the same job as a high thread count Egyptian cotton sheet but on the quality scale, Cotton will always be the first choice. The decision for the consumer is to decide how much of a compromise they are willing to make based on the difference in price.
You are right. Hastens do indeed use non woven as the pocket casement. Incidentally, so do Marshall and Stewart whose beds have a similar retail price. If we take the two leading manufacturers in this country – Savoir Beds and Vi Spring, we see that they exclusively use Cotton Calico as their casement material. The irony of the mattress industry is that each manufacturer will have their own justifications of using the products they use – Micro springs, not horsehair. Spunbond, not Calico.
There is no real right answer.
Please let me know your thoughts as a consumer.
Kind Regards Gary
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