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Replacing Harrisons Antigua 3000 mattress

Rich asked
5th June 2013

Hi chaps, I wonder if you could help me out. I’m in a bit of a quandary. I wrote to you a while ago asking about my Harrisons Antigua 3000 [Read Here] , which I’d been having some problems with. The unpleasant ‘pressure’ feeling I had on one side of the mattress didn’t disappear; Harrisons sent out an inspector who concluded there was no problem. Anyway – as long as I don’t sleep on my side, there is no problem!

The story continued!

After about a month of sleeping on my new bed I started to feel as though my hips were sinking too far into it – it is medium tension, and I am about 11 and 3/4 stone. I had created quite a dip after a month, and found myself moving to the side for extra support. In the end, I went back to sleeping on my old (probably about 10 years old) Dr Posture mattress from Dreams (Wyespring, I think the made up name for the brand was) that had 1400 springs in a KS. I loved that mattress!

As did anyone who slept in it. The thing was however, that I never owned it from new – I bought it from a friend when it was about 3 years old. Sitting on the side of it, it definitely didn’t compress as much as my Antigua, so I set about looking for a mattress that had the same firmness as the Wyespring, thinking it must be important to try out a mattress before you buy. I ended up buying what I thought was the ideal mattress. It was the John Lewis 1600 Ortho mattress, that seemed to have the same tension as my old mattress. However, after one night of sleeping on the new mattress, I developed quite bad lower back pain, that refused to go away until (this is best irony here…!) I went back to sleeping on the Harrisons bed!

I guess my hips weren’t being allowed to sink at all. So, I have arranged for JL to collect my mattress which they are going to do. However, it has left me feeling completely lost!

How am I supposed to find a mattress which is: 1. not too hot, and 2. supportive enough for a relatively light bloke, that was like my old mattress?!

Can you chaps help me please?

I’ve now come round to your way of thinking that you clearly don’t need to try a mattress before you buy!

I think (and only THINK by the way!) that I want something medium firm?

So, not quite as soft as Harrisons medium. But of course, in John Lewis, sitting on their various medium and firm beds, they are all different!

I was reading what you were saying about supportive fillings or supportive springs – can you work out which I need?

Their Ortho 1200 (with just polyester filling) seemed softer and bouncier, but very light weight. Would your latex mattress be ok for me?

I’m a bit worried about it being too hot. Or your Origins Pocket 1500/2000?

I could possibly stretch to your Artisan Tailored Pocket, but not easily!

But then would firm or medium be better?

And in that case would my Antigua base be ok?

I note that you suggest dearer bases for your natural mattresses. Sorry it’s such a long email, but I really don’t know how to proceed from here, and as you know, your average bed salesperson isn’t very knowledgeable!

Many thanks in advance, Rich .

1 Answer
Lee Staff
answered 11 years ago

Hi Rich.

It seems a shame to discard your Harrison’s mattress if it continues to be in relative good condition.

You are working to a budget and therefore you will not be able to get a perfect mattress unless you are willing and able to invest in such.

How much to spend on a double mattress?What can I expect for my money?
Under £500Will not get you much at best a 13.5 gauge open coil/cage sprung with a thin polyester layer or a solid foam mattress.
£500Entry level spunbond springs with some form of synthetic upholstery. Usually one sided mattresses.
£750The beginnings of a basic pocket springs unit with 800 – 1000 count. No substantial amount of filling other than foams and synthetic materials. Two sided models.
£1000Should get you away from most low ranges and into the mid-range pocket spring models.
£1250Should get you a decent pocket sprung mattress with some Natural Fibre content.
£1500Should get you many manufacturers mid-range models with Natural Fibres
£1500-£2000Should get you a Hand Made primarily Natural Fibre Quality Mattress
£2000+You should expect 100% Natural Fibres and Traditional Hand Made Construction Method.
£5000+A Bespoke Hand Made Sleep System, High-end Spring Units & Featuring the Worlds Most Luxurious Natural Fibres.

Our Origins 1500 is predominantly polyester based as are all mattresses below the £500 mark.

When you are considering mattresses at this level you really do have to take measures to supplement what you buy in the form of toppers.

Sometimes, particularly on a low budget you can get better value by buying the support and comfort layers separately.

Personally, for your weight (similar to mine) I would have thought the Harrisons Antigua medium would have been the correct support for you.

BodyweightSpring tension
Upto 16 Stone / 50-101kgMedium (1.4mm)
16 Stone / 101kg UpwardsFirm (1.6mm)
Available in Bespoke Products (Please Call)Soft (1.2mm)

If you do not have a topper on this mattress yet, I would seriously advise you to do so and see if that helps.

I know Soak & Sleep have an Ultimate Fleece toppers (this was an excellent topper at an excellent price) and also look at their Micro fibre models – you can never have enough toppers!

Kind Regards Gary

2013/05/20 at 10:07 Thanks for you help, John and Ryan.

However, could you indulge me a little more please?

If I could find some other use for my Harrison mattress, and bought your latex mattress, do you think that would give me the support that I’m looking for (and perhaps the longevity of support?

– it’s how quickly the Antigua seems to have developed a significant dip, that is the concerning thing; I think my sleeping on my side sometime hasn’t helped.

Do you think it’s the springs that compressed slightly already – I suppose unlikely in 6 months or so – or the fillings?).

Or do you think that buying your Artisan Pocket is the best solution if I’m thinking long term, to avoid creating a dip in the bed that feels strange to sleep in?!

Or do I just need to find a mattress with sightly firmer springs – eg med/firm?

I’m very puzzled – I’m sure I don’t remember this happening with my mattresses in the past.

Again, many thanks in advance for you help.

Rich

Hi again Rich.

It is so unlikely it is the springs that are the cause of the ‘dip’ – more likely it is the upholstery layers.

As mentioned previously the description states quite clearly that it is predominantly wool and cotton (of unknown weight) and a layer of Contura (shredded foam).

This is not an overly expensive mattress and so realistically you cannot expect it to contain the quality of upholstery as say in their more exclusive models.

Your situation really does emphasise the importance and necessity of utilising toppers on ALL mattresses.

If you had of done this from day one I doubt you would be in this position now.

So starting again what are your options?

Firstly, the minimum standard mattress you and everyone else should be looking to buy is our Artisan Naturals – Simply and plainly this is the best constructed mattress you can get for this budget!

It does come in at [ £1235 July 2018 ] for the kingsize model and if budgets can be stretched further to get The Artisan Bespoke then you will be in the realms of the best mattress you can buy.

To put this into some kind of perspective, a quick scan through the offerings from Dreams or Bensons for example will show you what the alternatives are for a similar retail price.

If your budget cannot stretch to these models then you will of course be compromising on some aspect of the build.

Mainly this will be the spring system – The Artisan Naturals and upwards utilise Calico encased units – the best your money can buy.

Upholstery becomes the next compromise you will have to make – if you go down as far as polyester (the cheapest and most prolific form of wadding) then you will HAVE to accept that it will fail / compress without taking measures to extend the life of such the best you can.

Even with the latex model you refer to.

This has the most extensive lifespan in the grand scheme of things, but even so, sleeping directly on the mattress without any form of protection brings a shiver to my spine.

ALL mattresses with soft upholstery will settle over a period of time.

Or to be more precise, you will see a visible indentation of your sleeping position.

Natural fibres do not fail – they compress and should not be a cause of discomfort.

Regular turning will give the mattress upholstery time to relax without the constant pressure of your body being put upon it.

Just as a final piece of corroboration, Savoir Beds produce the worlds most expensive bed at nothing less than a hundred grand – The Royal State.

They do not supplement the mattress with one topper – but two!

I hope this answers your question, if you require any further assistance please call the office on 0161 437 4419.

Kind Regards Gary

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