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10th February 2021

Savoir No. 2 Mattress Thickness Vs John Ryan Beds?

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Albert

Savoir No. 2 Mattress’ thickness/depth is confirmed to be “just” 20cm. Aren’t Mattresses below 9” of lesser quality?

Lee Answered 6 months ago

Hi Albert,

Many thanks for your comment on the depth of Luxury mattresses, in particular the Savoir No2 luxury mattress.
You're right to delve into the detail of this hand made wonder. Given the Savoir No 2 Mattress Retails at between £20,000-£25,000! This is for the mattress and bed base systems.

You're right that 20cm for a standalone mattress is probably the very minimum you can get away with. But if you're spending £20k on a mattress you should expect more? Exactly! Let's have a quick look at what you can expect for different mattress price points.

How much to spend on a double mattress? What can I expect for my money?
Under £500 Will not get you much at best a 13.5 gauge open coil/cage sprung with a thin polyester layer or a solid foam mattress.
£500 Entry level spunbond springs with some form of synthetic upholstery. Usually one sided mattresses.
£750 The beginnings of a basic pocket springs unit with 800 – 1000 count. No substantial amount of filling other than foams and synthetic materials. Two sided models.
£1000 Should get you away from most low ranges and into the mid-range pocket spring models.
£1250 Should get you a decent pocket sprung mattress with some Natural Fibre content.
£1500 Should get you many manufacturers mid-range models with Natural Fibres
£1500-£2000 Should get you a Hand Made primarily Natural Fibre Quality Mattress
£2000+ You should expect 100% Natural Fibres and Traditional Hand Made Construction Method.
£5000+ A Bespoke Hand Made Sleep System, High-end Spring Units & Featuring the Worlds Most Luxurious Natural Fibres.

Savoir Mattress Depths Explained:

However, Savioir's wonderful beds are made up not only of a mattress but matching highly upholstered sprung edge base (a mattress in its own right) and luxury thick topper. Think of it as almost separating out the main mattress into three components.

Savoir No 2 The Icon Mattress Technical Specifications

HW TOPPER (Horsetail and Wool)

  • Core of long, loose, handteased horse tail
  • Soft lambswool outer layer
  • Natural case made up in our trademark Trellis ticking

MATTRESS

  • Hand-tied, 7.5-turn pocket springs
  • Masses of hand-laid, long, loose horse tail, with cotton and wool
  • Hand-slipped piped closure and hand-side-stitching

BASE BOX SPRING

  • Grade 1 pine frame, screwed and glued Independent 8”/20cm hourglass springs
  • Hand-tied, eight-way starlashed interlinking 3”/7.5cm stitched hair roll edge
  • Hand-teased loose hair top filling

The Savoir No 2 is hand made in the UK in London. Savoir beds are most famously known as creating the beds for the Savoy when they first opened.

(Image taken from https://www.savoirbeds.com/)

How deep should a quality mattress be?:

In entry-level and midpoint mattresses, the minimum in a one-piece you should accept is 25cm, ideally 27cm for higher upholstered models. Latex is usually anywhere between 20cm-25cm as its far more progressive and supportive that natural fibres. Heavy as well, which is why 100% natural latex mattresses are usually between 20-23cm deep before covers.

All of our Artisan mattresses range from 27-33cm depending on the GSM of natural fibre upholstery. This upholstery creates the comfort layers in a mattress which should then be married up with a tailored pocket spring tension based on your bodyweight.

What's similar to the Savoir mattress range?

Whilst our mattress selection may not be in the same price bracket as Savoir we do however use a number of the same materials, the same springs and mattress detailing.

Our Artisan mattress range are all hand made, hand side stitched and feature a mix of the worlds finest natural fibres. Our mattresses take around 13 hours to hand-make and the upholstered sprung edge bases around 5 hours.

Have a look at our Legacy mattress in the Artisan range. Featuring 100% Natural British fibre, providing the same softer top layer sink as the Savoir No2 but with a medium support. Available in 4 different spring tensions depending on your height and body weight.



Legacy Mattress

1: 1000GSM BRITISH ALPACA FIBRES
2: HAIRPROOF CAMBRIC COVER
3: 1200GSM SWALEDALE WOOL
4: HAIRPROOF CAMBRIC COVER
5: 1200GSM HORSETAIL
6: 1000GSM ORGANIC FLAX
7: 1900 CALICO ENCASED POCKET SPRINGS [49MM ] [1.28MM ]

TOTAL: 5400GSM

DEPTH: 30-33CM

CHEMICAL FREE COVER

We hope that helps and gives you further mattress buying guidance Albert. If you have any more mattress related questions please get back in touch on info@localhost or 0161 437 4419.

Sleep well
John & Ryan

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