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Comparison between Savoir and John Ryan Mattresses

Gab asked
24th September 2020

Hello, Can you suggest me Savoir no2, no3, no4 alternatives in John Ryan mattresses please?

 

Hi Gab,

 

Thanks for your question about Savoir and John Ryan mattresses. You’re certainly looking at the very best of the best when comparing these models. Savoir are the UK’s absolute best of the best mattress manufacturer with a rich heritage of hand made craftsmanship and mattress making history.

The models you’re looking at are all pretty much sublime. They all have either a medium or medium soft feel in the comfort layers and a variety of spring tensions to suit your bodyweight. Trying to compare them is a bit like splitting golden hairs. However, we can provide some more detail to maybe help your decision!

Savoir No 2 The Icon Mattress Technical Specifications

HW TOPPER (Horsetail and Wool)

  • Core of long, loose, handteased horse tail
  • Soft lambswool outer layer
  • Natural case made up in our trademark Trellis ticking

MATTRESS

  • Hand-tied, 7.5-turn pocket springs
  • Masses of hand-laid, long, loose horse tail, with cotton and wool
  • Hand-slipped piped closure and hand-side-stitching

BASE BOX SPRING

  • Grade 1 pine frame, screwed and glued Independent 8”/20cm hourglass springs
  • Hand-tied, eight-way starlashed interlinking 3”/7.5cm stitched hair roll edge
  • Hand-teased loose hair top filling

The Savoir No 2 is hand made in the UK in London. Savoir beds are most famously known as creating the beds for the Savoy when they first opened, still found in their high-end hotel suites to this day!

(Image taken from https://www.savoirbeds.com/)

The finishing and hand detailing are exquisite on the Savoir mattress range. Their star lashed base using hourglass springs is a real beautiful touch. This mattress provides a soft sink and medium support for the sleeper. Each mattress is hand signed by the maker when it is ready to be dispatched. 80 hours go into making the mattress and base which is a mean feat!

Savoir No3 Mattress Specifications

There are fewer details available about the Savoir No3 mattress. It’s slightly more elusive! However, its a medium feel in the upholstery layer and again features a box base, mattress and topper combination.

Mattress:
The No3 mattress is packed with premium natural fillings – horse tail and layers of cotton and wool – to cushion your curves and control heat and moisture during the night, leaving you warm in winter and cool in the summer. These are complemented by contour-hugging pocket springs providing essential support.

Topper:
The original Savoir topper, mountains of long, loose, hand teasing horse tail are wrapped in soft lambswool and tufted into our trademark Trellis ticking, with gorgeous results. The HW Topper helps to achieve a better sleeping position with the feet slightly elevated; this aids blood circulation, which in turn improves the quality of sleep.

Boxspring:
The No3 boxspring boasts a hair roll, carefully stuffed and stitched by hand. The hourglass springs are star-lashed, involving hand-tying the springs to each other and to the frame at exactly the right tension in a radial pattern.

Savoir No 4 Mattress Specifications

The No4 Savoir bed doesn’t openly list its components in the same way as the No2 does. Were not quite sure. There is the following description though and again its a base, mattress and topper combination. It feels a bit softer than the No2 Savoir mattress.

Nested pocket springs are sandwiched between generous layers of lambswool, needled cotton and curled hair; hand tufting, cotton jacquard Trellis ticking.

Skilled Production Hours 30+
-Hand-tied, 6-turn pocket springs

-Hair pad, with layers of cotton and wool
-Tape edge and hand-side-stitching
John Ryan Comparisons to Savoir Mattresses
We have two models that compare directly in terms of the total GSM filling and the similar types of 100% natural fibre we use. Obviously all comparisons are based on the internal components and we don’t purport to have the exact same comfort feelings as each bed is made slightly differently with fibres in different layers etc. This is a comparison and not a copy.
Artisan Sublime (Softer feel in upholstery)

Our Artisan mattress range are all hand made, hand side stitched and feature a mix of the worlds finest natural fibres. Our mattresses take around 13 hours to hand-make and the bases around 5 hours. It retails around £3145 for a kingsize. The equivalent to about 8 mattresses for the same price as one of the above models!

Take a look at our Artisan Sublime as a comparative model which features a huge 5400GSM of plant-based and animal natural fibres along with its handmade pocket sprung mattress base.

The springs are available in 3 spring tensions and are vanadium coated before being stitched into calico cases. These springs are then hand-tied together by a skilled spring technician. The Artisan Sublime is an extra deep soft sink mattress with medium support. Ensuring the most dreamy luxury sleep possible.

 

Artisan Sublime Mattress
1 800GSM BAMBOO
2 1200GSM ALPACA
3 HAIRPROOF CAMBRIC COVER
4 1200GSM PURE HORSETAIL
5 1200GSM ORGANIC FLAX
6 1000GSM COCONUT FIBRE COIR
7 2508 (2 TIERS) CALICO ENCASED POCKET SPRINGS [56MM] [1.40MM]
TOTAL 5400GSM
DEPTH 33-35CM
CHEMICAL FREE COVER
Artisan Bespoke 003 (Medium feel in upholstery)
The Artisan Bespoke 003 is more akin to the No2/No3 in terms of the feel. It’s a true medium and is both hand made and 10% natural fibre with a plant based fire retardancy cover. Zero chemicals are used in the cover or fibres.
One of our finest natural models, combines dual layers (2 rows) of calico springs with breathable fibres, to regulate body temperature and create a comforting cool sleep surface.
Artisan Bespoke 003
1 1000GSM ALPACA
2 HAIRPROOF CAMBRIC COVER
3 1000GSM BLENDED BRITISH FLEECE WOOL AND COTTON
4 400GSM SOFT BAMBOO
5 1200GSM PURE HORSETAIL
6 1000GSM BONDED BRITISH FLEECE WOOL AND COTTON
7 1000GSM COIR COCONUT FIBRE
8 2508 (2 TIERS) CALICO ENCASED POCKET SPRINGS [56MM] [1.40MM]
TOTAL 5600GSM
DEPTH 27-30CM
CHEMICAL FREE COVER

If you’re looking for a softer feel then choose the Artisan Sublime or for a more medium feel the Artisan Bespoke 003.

We hope that helps and if you have any more mattress related questions please get back in touch on [email protected] or 0161 437 4419.

Sleep well
John & Ryan

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